0 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,000 The next set of questions has to do with money. 1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Who pays for church activities? 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Well...I think if you take a look at Jesus and the Twelve you'd see it was a pretty low overhead situation. 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:24,000 At one point, they couldn't pay their temple tax and they had to go and get money out of a fish's mouth. 4 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:31,000 At other times, like during what's classically called "the last supper," they apparently had a little money accumulated, 5 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,000 because the rest thought that Judas was going off to go give money to the poor. 6 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Judas did have some money, I guess, didn't he, when he got the silver pieces? 7 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:47,000 In any event, money wasn't something that was a big focal point for them. 8 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,000 They were very low overhead. They didn't have a lot of possessions. 9 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:58,000 They had a couple swords, right at the very end, amongst the whole bunch of them. 10 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,000 They didn't take along extra clothes when they travelled, 11 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:08,000 implying that maybe they had some, but basically it was a low overhead situation. 12 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:16,000 We (speaking as the body of Christ at large, universally) have made some major blunders... 13 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:21,000 by strapping ourselves into big mortgages and advertising budgets,... 14 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,500 using that to "do" things and to try to accommodate certain things that we consider priorities,... 15 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:28,000 and in the end, making some bad decisions. 16 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:38,000 "We can't say anything 'hard' from the pulpit" - (which that whole thing shouldn't exist anyway!)- 17 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:43,000 -"because if we alienated some of the well-heeled members, we wouldn't be able to make our mortgage payment." 18 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Or: "We can't decide to send 50% of the people in the church off to another country, 19 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:54,000 because then who would make the building payment and pay the salaries?" 20 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,000 We've strapped ourselves in with all these Ishmaelic decisions, 21 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:05,000 so that we have to make more bad choices just to keep the machine running. 22 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:11,000 As far as money goes...It is certainly true that by the Lord's command... 23 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,000 "those who labor in the gospel should earn their living from the gospel." 24 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Elsewhere, Paul exhorts: "Let the one who receives instruction in the word share all good things with his teacher." 25 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:30,000 There are certain responsibilities for organically meeting the needs of those who have helped us spiritually. 26 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Peter, for example, pleaded with Paul, "You're the apostle to the Gentiles, but whatever you do, just don't forget the poor". 27 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Money needs to circulate for the giving that is a part of our lives. 28 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,000 We need to "lay by in store" for certain purposes God has made us all aware of. 29 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:56,000 And sacrificial giving is a very good indicator of where we're at spiritually. 30 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,000 If we sow sparingly, we'll reap sparingly. 31 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:06,000 So the process of giving and utilizing funds for God's work is all a very biblical idea. 32 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:16,000 But it was never really God's intent for it to be run like Amway, Proctor and Gamble, or some major corporation. 33 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,000 People pay dues to get in the door. They basically pay for the show. 34 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Then the money is put in the budget which is made into a Lotus pie chart so the money can be distributed to different things. 35 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:31,000 Making a budget, taking votes, holding board meetings, and using all of these business-oriented ways to deal with things... 36 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,000 ...was never God's heart or God's intention. 37 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:41,000 If anybody is doing that kind of stuff, you need to stop! It's not God's Heart. It's not God's way. 38 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,500 I know it seems logical, but so did Hagar and Ishmael. 39 00:03:44,500 --> 00:03:46,000 And it's not going to bear good fruit. 40 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:54,000 You know yourself - you have already seen it in your own experience - all the chaos and difficulty that it's brought in your lives. 41 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,000 I'm asking you to look at your universe a little bit differently. It doesn't have to be that way. 42 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:07,000 God can organically cause people to care for one another's needs. And when there is a need, as in 1 Corinthians 16, 43 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:15,000 and we have to pull together funds for a brother to get a car or for some other folks to go to eastern Europe,... 44 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,000 we can do it, whether on a minute's notice or six month's notice. 45 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:27,000 To print teachings, to care for needs inside of the church, to care for people in the community who aren't saved - 46 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,000 - all those needs can be met by people "giving as they have been prospered," 47 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,000 "laying by in store," and "giving to anyone as they have need." 48 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:40,000 We might even see "from time to time, people selling land and possessions" as they see needs arise. 49 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Those kinds of things are basic Christian living. 50 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:50,000 But they certainly don't justify the religious way we've handled the matter. 51 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Like the peer pressure: 52 00:04:52,000 --> 00:05:00,000 I've known pastors - even in a "megachurch" in this city - who, when "the basket" was passed around, 53 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:06,000 always put in an empty envelope during the second service on Sunday. 54 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:12,000 He already "gave" at the first service, but he didn't want people at the second service to think he wasn't giving. 55 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,000 He put an empty envelope in the basket, in front of everybody, 56 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,000 so that everyone could see his "giving" and be motivated to do the same. 57 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,000 That's hypocrisy! That's manipulation! That's sin! That's not Christianity. 58 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,000 But I remember back in the olden days, when that basket used to pass in front of me. 59 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,500 It was like...[then he makes a face]. "I got to run out into the car to get my check book." I'd be in a frenzy. 60 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:36,500 If I didn't have very much to give, I'd make sure I folded the money... 61 00:05:36,500 --> 00:05:40,000 and then I'd slide it underneath the pile, where nobody would see it. 62 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:48,000 All that pressure and tension is not from God. We put ourselves and others in a bind. 63 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:54,000 It's not right. It's manipulation, control, and trying to accomplish our own agenda. 64 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:00,000 We feel in bondage to all this stuff we've created for ourselves--salaries, mortgage payments, 65 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,000 things that God never intended in the first place. 66 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Paul got no salary! He wrote to the Philippians and said, 67 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:13,000 "You guys used to be the only ones helping me, and then even you stopped for a while and then renewed it again." 68 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,000 It was an organic thing. 69 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:22,000 If you look through the book of Acts and through Paul's letters, you see that people would give as God called them to give, 70 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,000 watching and praying and channeling it into the direction that seemed best and right. 71 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Giving is right. Utilization of money is a good thing. 72 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:37,000 But accumulating property for this entity called "the church" is a bad idea. 73 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:42,000 It will cause problems eventually in working out life together. 74 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,000 There's been a big joke about our "average bank account." 75 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,000 Actually, we don't even have a "church bank account." It doesn't exist. 76 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,000 It's lives. It's neither here nor there. It's within us. 77 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:05,000 But, at any given time, we've had an average accumulation of funds of just about zero during all the years we've been here. 78 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:12,000 For example, a bunch of people might have laid down some money for use as anyone has need, 79 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,000 and two days later we'd find a major need, and the money would be gone. 80 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:21,000 It was as if God had stirred their hearts to give sacrificially in an illogical way with no known needs, 81 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,000 and then - boom! - two days later, the need became clear. 82 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,000 At other times when we've wanted to give a major gift to some folks in other countries, 83 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,000 we've accumulated funds for several weeks, found out about a need, and then - bang - it's been there for them. 84 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:46,000 That's really an organic, life-giving, freeing way to handle this thing called money, finances - this root of much evil in our lives. 85 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Nobody has to worry about inflation or cost-of-living increases or merit raises. 86 00:07:54,000 --> 00:08:00,000 That whole concept is of the world and and not of the New Testament. 87 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Certainly we want to give in a material way to those that have prospered us spiritually. 88 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:10,000 "Let the one who receives instruction in the word share all good things with his teacher." Awesome! 89 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,000 "By the Lord's command, those who have labored in the gospel should earn their living that way." 90 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 That's awesome - but it's organic! 91 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:21,000 That giving is because we love and appreciate each other. We give as God calls us, so there's a dynamic. 92 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Suppose person X has had most of his or her needs met by people who appreciate what X has done for them spiritually. 93 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:37,000 What if suddenly X's life becomes somewhat less in touch with God, so that he's no longer changing lives around him? 94 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Then people will stop slipping money under the door or jotting that person's name down on an envelope with money for him. 95 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,000 They'll stop because they're no longer finding the benefit of life. 96 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Suddenly this guy's got to go back to making tents. 97 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,000 He's got to get a job now so he can support other people who are doing God's work. 98 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,000 So when the giving is organic, God can raise up or sit down a man whenever He pleases. 99 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:12,000 It's a very beautiful, very freeing, and very reasonable thing when everybody learns to walk in faith and obedience to the Spirit's voice 100 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:20,000 rather than adherence to some external pattern, "guarantees," or worldly thinking. 101