Fathers: Knowing Him


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Requirement: Not zeal or obedience as a foundation. Remember what it said in 1 John 2? The reason they were fathers? “I write to you, fathers, because you have known Him who is from the beginning.” Verse 14, “I write to you, fathers, because you have known Him who is from the beginning.”

“When a student is fully trained, he becomes like his teacher.” In order to be a father in kingdom things, you have got to have intimacy with Him who is from the beginning. That’s the next step is to have intimacy with that Father who is from the beginning -- that life that always was.

What is the definition of eternal life? Have you ever thought about that? It’s to know God and Jesus Christ, His Son (John 17:3). How long is eternity? It goes infinitely in both directions. That’s what I want you to see. The next time you hear that word “eternal life,” think about that, because that’s what God has destined for you. It’s not to go here and there but to go both directions.

Jesus talked about that. In John 13, He said that because He came from the Father and was returning to the Father, He showed them the full extent of His love. In John 17, He was starting to remember that life that was, before the world was. “Father, I was with you in creation before the world was.” Jesus, you remember, grew in wisdom and stature. He grew. He learned obedience by the things that He suffered. Jesus walked with His Father in obedience to the Father, crucifying the flesh, fighting off the attacks of satan, not giving into them, not compromising. He grew in an understanding of eternal life that went both directions. He learned obedience.

Jesus was an example of the Son of Man. He was man’s representative. He was showing us that it could be done, to grow in that ancient life. Jesus is called the “Ancient of Days,” remember? I AM WHO AM. Before Abraham was, I AM. That’s the nature of the Christ in you, the hope of glory. It’s a life that always was, as well as always will be. I hope you see the magnitude of that! I don’t plan on dying and going to heaven. I plan on, this is eternal life that goes both directions -- to know Him, to have intimacy with the Father who always was. The Ancient Life that dwells within us -- to know Him who is from the beginning, to live in Him and breathe in Him and to remember what it was before the world was, before time was. It’s to grow in that Christ-life that knows that we came from the Father and are returning to the Father.

Does Jesus live in a disciple? Yes or no? Is our body the temple of the Holy Spirit? Yes. Jesus always was and He always will be, and when your heart and soul open up to what eternal life really is, you are just going to go goo-goo because it’s not dying and going to heaven that God has promised us. He promised that we would be transformed into the full measure of the stature of Christ if we just get rid of the flesh! If we just renew our minds and stop thinking man’s thoughts and reasoning in man’s ways and feeding the animal of the sinful nature. Starve that dude to death! And what will happen is, the fullness of the life of Christ that always was and always will be will grow up in you. Your life will become more and more like Moses who saw God and his face shined. And Stephen whose face shined. That came from seeing God.

I’m not trying to give you Bible study. I’m trying to give you a vision, because without revelation, without vision, you will cast off restraint. You won’t want to do what God wants you to do. If you don’t see what He is up to, you will kick this stuff around and die in mediocrity. And I don’t want you to do that. And I don’t want to do that. These are battles for me every day too. To keep crucifying the flesh. Have no part in that. The ancient life, the life that always was and always will be, eternal life in both directions -- that’s what God has predestined us for.

Rom. 3:23 -- We have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Do you see what happened? We fell short of the transfigured life by sin.

Gen. 2:7-- The wind of the Spirit was blown into man and they received the glory of God into their being.

2 Cor. 3:18 -- We are transformed into His image with ever-increasing glory.

1 Peter 1:8 -- We are filled with joy inexpressible, full of glory.

Rom. 8:29, 12:2 -- We are “glory-fied” by the renewing of our minds. Renewed to what? We are renewed to the glory of God and to the image of Jesus Christ -- the mind that was with the Father, the Ancient of Days. The word becoming flesh in us in that “glory-fied” life.

2 Cor. 4:7 -- There is a treasure in earthen vessels. Where is that treasure? The verse before that says that the glory of God was made to shine in the face of Jesus Christ, and we are now vessels that hold that treasure. “…the glory of God in the face of Christ.” Unto the full measure of the stature of God, of Jesus Christ.

Col. 1:26 -- “…Christ in you, the hope of glory.” Glory, the transfigured life that we are destined for.

Heb.2:10 -- It is God’s intention to bring many sons to glory, not to salvation only.

Salvation is not a bad word either because salvation means fullness, it means wholeness. It doesn’t mean I am saved from my sins. It means I am delivered into the Kingdom of the beloved Son, into the Kingdom that came down from heaven to rest on planet earth, the unseen Kingdom. Salvation isn’t a bad word if you understand what it means -- wholeness, restoration of what was before the fall of man. We sinned and lost the glory, and God’s purpose was to restore that to us by faith, by putting our full weight on Jesus Christ and by calling on His name. 1 Pet. 4:14, 5:10; Rom. 9:23; 1 Cor. 2:7; 1 Thess. 2:12. Those are all things that you’ll see are very valuable.

Jesus said His Holy Spirit that would come that Joel prophesied about. In John 20:22 it says that Jesus breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit.” You can see what’s happening. He breathed on them. Just like it happened in Genesis. God breathed on them and they came to life. And now we can be born again of water and the Spirit. Jesus breathed on them the breath of heaven.

I hope those will be seeds that you will fan into flame by your crucifying the flesh. John 7:37 says that God pours out His Spirit on us, we are breathing it in. Rev. 22:1-2 says that there is a river that flows in front of the throne of God and then breathing it out to others, fathering others.

John 7:38 says that rivers of living water are gushing out of our bellies. That river that flows in front of the throne of God flows through us and out of our bellies. We receive it from God, it comes from the throne of God, and we father others with that life. That river that flows in front of the throne of God flows through us and brings that glory to other peoples’ lives. The rivers of living water that gush out of our bellies are said to be given to those who believe in Him. It’s not some weird, super-spiritual thing at all. It’s to those who believe in Him that would come after He was “glory-fied.” That’s the norm. It’s our destiny. It’s what we were created to be.

2 Kings 4:34 talks about Elisha being hand-to-hand and eye-to-eye and mouth-to-mouth with a man he raised from the dead. And that’s exactly what happens when we are fathering other people into the glory of God. We are getting hand-to-hand and mouth-to-mouth and eye-to-eye with them and we’re breathing the glory of God, the New Life, into them. That’s the fathering. That’s walking in agreement with the Fatherheart of God -- to be able to do that. To go hand-to-hand and mouth-to-mouth. Elijah did that also in 1 Kings 17, and Paul did the same thing in Acts 20:10. In 1 Thessalonians 2:7-8 Paul said, “I dared to share not only the gospel with you but my very life. I was a father to you. I nurtured you. I was a mother and I fed you.”

The second thing that He is going to have to bring us through is learning to walk in agreement with His Fatherheart and with His nature. Turn back to 1 John 2 and I’ll show you the last thing. This making any sense to you at all? Just a tiny seed anyway?

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